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Old 08-29-2015, 10:04 PM   #2
zico20
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Originally Posted by Kash$
I doubt we ever see Baffert ship a stud 3 year old to Saratoga..Brutal
Point Given was a monster and was getting better...
Many may disagree but PG was every bit as good as AP..
I was going to start a thread on this but you beat me to it. IMO, Point Given is the better horse. I am a little biased here. My two biggest win bets of all time were Risen Star and Point Given both in the Belmont. I thought Point Given was a little short going into the KD having had only two preps. Even being a short horse, I still think he would have won the Derby had Stevens gave him a better ride. He was way to close to those suicidal fraction of 44.4 and 109.1. Had Stevens put Point Given where Monarchos was we would have had a triple crown winner and quite possibly could have equaled or beaten Secretariat's time.

Also, Victor said the three weeks between starts played a factor. There was 27 days between the Haskell and the Travers for AP. When Point Given won both there was only 20 days between starts. Aug 5-25. That one week is huge. I wonder if AP would have even tried the Travers had there been only 20 days between starts.

Had Point Given not gotten hurt we could have been talking about comparing him to Spectacular Bid on the best horses to not win the triple crown in the past 40 years.
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