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Old 03-16-2016, 10:28 PM   #30
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It is certain proof of the insanity of conservatives that they think republicans have been caving in to Obama. If there is one thing we can be sure of it is the unrelenting opposition of Republicans to anything Obama .

And here is another proof. That they will accept nothing but the most rabid of conservatives.
One of the major issues of the Tea Party conservatives is government spending and deficits. They are fiscal conservatives. When the republicans finally got control of congress, it was with the expectation that they would do everything in their power to defund Obamacare and slow the growth of spending because deficits were huge, debt was piling up at an all time rate, and spending was growing faster than GDP

A little progress was made via the sequester, but nothing was ever even sent to Obama's desk for him to veto to make the political point about who actually wanted to spend what. That riled up the conservatives because the guys they had just elected didn't do what they campaigned and were elected to do.

Then you had guys like Boehner making backdoor deals with the president that would increase spending faster and give Obama a bunch of things he wanted for almost no return. So they went ballistic. That's why he was forced out.

Finally, Ryan basically picked up where Boehner left off until they started going ballistic on him.

The basic math driving that movement is that federal spending cannot grow faster than GDP long term. We are already heavily in debt at the exact time spending is going to ACCELERATE for SS, medicare, medicaid, pensions etc... because of the demographics. Something has to give. Everyone knows that the only way to get out from under this mess is to make some drastic moves on spending now so they don't have to be super extreme later and taxes don't have to go through the roof also. That's where the passion is coming from. Every time the republicans fail to deliver now, that wing of the party is going to get even more pissed.
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