KD horses i'm using

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by Afleet

pedigree definitely not an exact science

ha

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by zico20

When you are falling apart in the stretch after having an uncontested lead in 48 flat and 112 and 2 there isn't much hope of sticking around going longer, faster, against better and not having the lead. Track Phantom is an easy toss.

he only lost to sierra by 1/2L @ 1 1/8

horse hasn't packed it in enough to be an easy toss imo

[boys at tosconova]

stronghold isn't getting much love at the windows.

and while i'm a little more lenient in races like this, if this was an overnight race the board and action considers the horse dead.

[zico20]

Originally Posted by boys at tosconova

he only lost to sierra by 1/2L @ 1 1/8

horse hasn't packed it in enough to be an easy toss imo

With getting an easy lead which isn't happening Saturday! He will be lucky to finish in the top 10.

[Bullet Plane]

For me, narrowing down my selections to the key Derby preps:

BC Juv: - Fierceness - Florida Derby
Muth - Ark Derby
Timberlake - Rebel

Remsen: - Dornoch - Fountain of Youth
-Sierra Leone- Risen Star, Blue Grass
- Domestic Product - Tampa Bay Derby

Risen Star - Sierra Leone - Blue Grass
- Catching Freedom - La Derby
- Resilience - Wood

Sifting these out for best races: # 1 Fierceness
2nd best: #2 Sierra Leone

Since I'm choking on chalk here, I'll need to isolate some of these out of the key preps that might offer value in tri's and super's:

1 Dornoch, 3SL, good race one down

5 Catalytic, 3SL, ascending number pattern .

7 Honor Marie, closer from FG, they get into alot of tri and super due to long stretch that is similar to the CD stretch

15 Domestic Product, got bumped repeatedly, fast finish

16 Grand Mo the First, strong Tomlinson, could clunk up from a midpack trip

20 Society Man, Collateral form with Resilience, could clunk up with a midpack ride from super jock Dettori , has an ideal 82 then 87 BSF.

21 Epic Ride, collateral form with Sierra Leone from Blue Grass, also some polytrack form which adds some sizzle, could clunk up for tri or super.

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by zico20

With getting an easy lead which isn't happening Saturday! He will be lucky to finish in the top 10.

may not need to be on lead. seems as if they're working him just off the lead.

he does look like he's stagnating a lil and not really getting better. it also seems like he's a little slow as well. but he still shouldn't be 50-1

[boys at tosconova]

Originally Posted by Bullet Plane

For me, narrowing down my selections to the key Derby preps:

BC Juv: - Fierceness - Florida Derby
Muth - Ark Derby
Timberlake - Rebel

Remsen: - Dornoch - Fountain of Youth
-Sierra Leone- Risen Star, Blue Grass
- Domestic Product - Tampa Bay Derby

Risen Star - Sierra Leone - Blue Grass
- Catching Freedom - La Derby
- Resilience - Wood

Sifting these out for best races: # 1 Fierceness
2nd best: #2 Sierra Leone

Since I'm choking on chalk here, I'll need to isolate some of these out of the key preps that might offer value in tri's and super's:

1 Dornoch, 3SL, good race one down

5 Catalytic, 3SL, ascending number pattern .

7 Honor Marie, closer from FG, they get into alot of tri and super due to long stretch that is similar to the CD stretch

15 Domestic Product, got bumped repeatedly, fast finish

16 Grand Mo the First, strong Tomlinson, could clunk up from a midpack trip

20 Society Man, Collateral form with Resilience, could clunk up with a midpack ride from super jock Dettori , has an ideal 82 then 87 BSF.

21 Epic Ride, collateral form with Sierra Leone from Blue Grass, also some polytrack form which adds some sizzle, could clunk up for tri or super.

it's hard to handicap for third. i just don't do it. for me in trips i key a winner and key a 2/3rd horse with a handful of others. so you have to be good enough to finish 2nd for me to key you for third. and most longshots aren't good enough for 2nd

[Hoops McCann]

Sierra Leone
Domestic Product
Forever Young
Just A Touch
Fierceness