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10-02-2013, 08:15 PM
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The Voice of Reason!
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Canandaigua, New york
Posts: 113,024
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Day late, dollar short.....again
DRF's answer to the much better TimeFormUS is to raise prices and stop free articles. That should get them flocking to DRF.com
I just cancelled my DRF+ subscription because they substitute the informative weekly articles I enjoyed with tons of article of no great information. Quantity has surpassed quality at DRF.
Buh bye.
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10-02-2013, 08:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 997
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even better the content is suppose to be free for those with DRF Bets accounts, but no access is available (at least for now).
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10-02-2013, 11:05 PM
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broken-down horseplayer
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Portland, OR area
Posts: 2,090
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I get the impression that whomever is running the DRF as a business is not a horseplayer, owner, trainer, jockey or anyone else even remotely connected to the sport.
At it's height (for me) back in the 1980s, only about 20 percent of the content other than the PPs was ever interesting. From what I can tell from recent purchases, that percentage isn't climbing, and the free content online isn't worth much except for entries and results. With the exception of the Breeder's Cup preview editions and a single great April Fool's edition back in the 1980s, the DRF has simply been an expensive rag.
At least they don't post the head shots of horses when they die anymore - like you're were going to recognize them. That always cracked me up....
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10-03-2013, 12:43 AM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,875
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofless_Wonder
At least they don't post the head shots of horses when they die anymore - like you're were going to recognize them. That always cracked me up....
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That's funny.......never thought of it that way
I could probably recognize one........current horse.........can you?
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10-03-2013, 01:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,208
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Here is the Twitter for the president of DRF Digital.
https://twitter.com/toddunger
He doesn't seem to update it very often.
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10-03-2013, 01:18 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 997
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10-03-2013, 01:45 AM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,875
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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
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I don't think he is using that account? Hasn't tweeted much and none for months........?
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10-03-2013, 02:46 AM
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clean money
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 23,568
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I love the TFUS, time form US.
Really a clean easy to use presentation, and quality figs. The pace figures that TFUS uses are just about the best available. I'm getting to the point where I can use Pace Projector and it takes about 5 seconds to get an idea about the race.
I also really really love DRF. I grew up reading The Form over the shoulder, and across the table from my father.
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10-03-2013, 05:03 AM
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Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 25,607
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofless_Wonder
I get the impression that whomever is running the DRF as a business is not a horseplayer, owner, trainer, jockey or anyone else even remotely connected to the sport.
At it's height (for me) back in the 1980s, only about 20 percent of the content other than the PPs was ever interesting. From what I can tell from recent purchases, that percentage isn't climbing, and the free content online isn't worth much except for entries and results. With the exception of the Breeder's Cup preview editions and a single great April Fool's edition back in the 1980s, the DRF has simply been an expensive rag.
At least they don't post the head shots of horses when they die anymore - like you're were going to recognize them. That always cracked me up....
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You gotta love a person who just wants past performances ends up directly or indirectly paying the salary of writers who are going thru the motions, not rocking the boat and not jeopardizing their free doughnuts and coffee they get in the press box.
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10-03-2013, 08:31 AM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,813
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
You gotta love a person who just wants past performances ends up directly or indirectly paying the salary of writers who are going thru the motions, not rocking the boat and not jeopardizing their free doughnuts and coffee they get in the press box.
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Nice idiotic broad sweeping generalization. I hope they drop coverage of SRU immediately...
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10-03-2013, 10:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
Posts: 5,873
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Nice idiotic broad sweeping generalization. I hope they drop coverage of SRU immediately...
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It was a generalization I agree but there is some truth to the statements, this definitely is an "insider" industry more so than most.
I hope it works out for DRF, obviously this is a last ditch effort to save the news portion of their model. I cant see paying something that you can find for free but my opinion may be in the minority.
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10-03-2013, 12:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stillriledup
You gotta love a person who just wants past performances ends up directly or indirectly paying the salary of writers who are going thru the motions, not rocking the boat and not jeopardizing their free doughnuts and coffee they get in the press box.
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Truer words were never spoken. PACEADVANTAGE, he's right. DRF is more formulaic than a Law & Order episode. It is also a big conflict of interest with the betting portal. I've had it out with a few DRF people and they have no clue. They truly believe they are journalists.
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10-03-2013, 12:21 PM
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PA Steward
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Del Boca Vista
Posts: 88,813
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I stand corrected after all of this expert testimony...
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10-03-2013, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 16,940
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Quote:
Truer words were never spoken. PACEADVANTAGE, he's right. DRF is more formulaic than a Law & Order episode. It is also a big conflict of interest with the betting portal. I've had it out with a few DRF people and they have no clue. They truly believe they are journalists.
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Wait... Law and Order is formulaic?
Goren!!!!
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10-03-2013, 01:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SandyLoam
Truer words were never spoken. PACEADVANTAGE, he's right. DRF is more formulaic than a Law & Order episode. It is also a big conflict of interest with the betting portal. I've had it out with a few DRF people and they have no clue. They truly believe they are journalists.
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what do you mean "you've had it out with a few DRF people?
would love to hear what the interaction and situation was
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