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06-06-2015, 08:13 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Bismarck, ND
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Belmont was the first time I was impressed with AP. I had ample doubt. Nicely done. I tried to beat him but had the saver trifecta to keep loses minimal.
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06-06-2015, 08:14 PM
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#77
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Mike Schultz
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: North Carolina
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
If Jerry rode Materiality, we'd all be hailing Frosted the Belmont winner.
When Ramon got hurt, the last GREAT jockey left our continent. No one left (like Johnny V on the supposed 'I'm getting the lead no matter what" horse) and bullshit like this happens.
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If if and buts were candies and nuts...... 
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06-06-2015, 08:17 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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Originally Posted by depalma113
Try to justify betting against him any way you can. You can't see greatness when you are staring it in the face and that's sad for you.
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No pal, I'm not a Hulkamania loving, root for the American hero chalk eating weasel. I know greatness when I see it.
AP was not impressive. His pace was equal to race 6, yes for older horses, yes it was 2/5 faster than Coach Inge but it was done with zero competition from the only pace horse in the race.
you want talent, look at a horse who wins 2 duels in 1 race and holds off a closer. Find a horse who is stressed through the fastest part of a race and finds the guts to win.
AP had 3 different type of cakewalk scenarios vs. horses who were compromised in all 3 TC races. He overcame ZERO obstacles.
He is no superhorse. Sorry to be a debbie downer. I've seen 50 claimers who were more impressive than this horse.
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06-06-2015, 08:18 PM
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GARY
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Florida
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AP
Lets see,AP didn't deserve to win because he set a slow pace?
And, if he sets a fast pace and wins he didn't deserve to win because the other jocks didn't press AP.
So couple of thoughts.
Second fastest Belmont in racing history.
AP is second in the all time list of meeting more opponents other than War Admiral.
Wake up, this horse was noted as a freak early in his career by Jeff Seder,
who Zayat s/b sending a huge consultant fee.
Welcome the new three year old and horse of the year, and undoubtedly
best trainer and owner of 2015.
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06-06-2015, 08:19 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by PICSIX
If if and buts were candies and nuts...... |
I can at least smile through all this. Good one 
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06-06-2015, 08:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
No pal, I'm not a Hulkamania loving, root for the American hero chalk eating weasel. I know greatness when I see it.
AP was not impressive. His pace was equal to race 6, yes for older horses, yes it was 2/5 faster than Coach Inge but it was done with zero competition from the only pace horse in the race.
you want talent, look at a horse who wins 2 duels in 1 race and holds off a closer. Find a horse who is stressed through the fastest part of a race and finds the guts to win.
AP had 3 different type of cakewalk scenarios vs. horses who were compromised in all 3 TC races. He overcame ZERO obstacles.
He is no superhorse. Sorry to be a debbie downer. I've seen 50 claimers who were more impressive than this horse.
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Last edited by thaskalos; 06-06-2015 at 08:21 PM.
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06-06-2015, 08:20 PM
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Scum Bum!
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Lexington, KY
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Originally Posted by Shelby
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I can drive 15 minutes down the road to Taylor Made...this is a very special win across the board for all the Hard Boots in Central, KY.
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06-06-2015, 08:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
I've seen 50 claimers who were more impressive than this horse.
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That's it.
I've sat back for the past 90 minutes watching you stew as you type.
You have absolutely no sense of perspective,
or an earthly idea of what you're talking about.
Go for a long walk.....take up fishing....anything but horse racing, please.
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06-06-2015, 08:21 PM
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Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,132
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Originally Posted by horses4courses
That's it.
I've sat back for the past 90 minutes watching you stew as you type.
You have absolutely no sense of perspective,
or an earthly idea of what you're talking about.
Go for a long walk.....take up fishing....anything but horse racing, please.
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Needs a nap
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06-06-2015, 08:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Ironically...Social Inclusion just now gets buried in the get-out race at Belmont.
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06-06-2015, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,738
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
I've seen 50 claimers who were more impressive than this horse.
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I'll be first in line to drop a claim slip on Frosted in a $12,500 claimer at Laurel soon.
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06-06-2015, 08:27 PM
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In Front
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Hollywood Florida
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Originally Posted by EMD4ME
I can at least smile through all this. Good one |
Im really glad you are not in the middle of that NY mob in the grandstand that just witnessed this horse.I think you may get a good old AMERICAN beating knocking what this horse has done.Fastest Belmont since 03, Yeah bring on the 50 claimers!
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06-06-2015, 08:29 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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Originally Posted by depalma113
Just for the record.
He was faster than Affirmed.
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How quick/slow was the dirt the day Affirmed won compared to today's card?
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06-06-2015, 08:30 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Woohoo!!!!
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06-06-2015, 08:31 PM
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NoPoints4ME
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 9,854
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Originally Posted by McSchell_Racing
Im really glad you are not in the middle of that NY mob in the grandstand that just witnessed this horse.I think you may get a good old AMERICAN beating knocking what this horse has done.Fastest Belmont since 03, Yeah bring on the 50 claimers!
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First time I haven't been at the Belmont since 1989, sad..... 26 straight years, it's weird NOT being there.
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