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01-26-2013, 04:51 PM
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01-26-2013, 04:54 PM
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How's the bias at GP? Can this 1 horse go wire to wire in the 1 path on the gold rail, or, can you close at this place?
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01-26-2013, 05:13 PM
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new track record
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01-26-2013, 05:14 PM
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I was hoping for better than 9-2, but I'll take it. SB ran better than I thoght he would - I thought he was not going to be too tough today.
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01-26-2013, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by precocity
so far
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TRI BOX-    IF THE SB WINS WONT PAY JACK!
SUPER WILL PLAY THE THE ONES I HAVE WITH THE IN SOME WHEELS!
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lost my azz on this race did have a 50 to show bet on the still lost 340 on the race!!!! was having a good day still up 213$ 
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01-26-2013, 06:06 PM
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Kudos, Cincy et.al.
I would still say the winner was an underlay who got the perfect stalk sitting 3rd, but that was probably anticipated by his backers.
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01-26-2013, 06:37 PM
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That was a legit race.
Itsmyluckyday proved better than Shanghai Bobby IMO, and was slowly drawing clear as they hit the wire.
The pace was fast, the time was fast. Bobby set a fast pace, but he also had the rail path. - I don't give either horse a huge advantage in trip. It's possible that Bobby had a little better trip, even though he was on the pace. [Itsmyluckyday ran 32 more feet in distance / Trakus]. I don't know how much stock you want to put into the gallop out, but Bobby/Napravnik did gallop out much the best.
I don't give anyone else major upgrades or downgrades. I guess you could say the 3 benefited from being inside speed, and that the 9 Fredricksburg was up-against it with the post position and pace and shouldn't hold this race against him on the turf next out.
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01-26-2013, 06:55 PM
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most say MR Fischer I do enjoy your post. 
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01-26-2013, 07:32 PM
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I'm wondering if it's too soon to start getting some pedigree analysis from classhandicapper . . .
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01-26-2013, 11:07 PM
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How's the bias at GP? Can this 1 horse go wire to wire in the 1 path on the gold rail, or, can you close at this place?
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No gold rail today at GP. Maybe a golden 4 path.
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01-27-2013, 11:04 PM
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I'm wondering if it's too soon to start getting some pedigree analysis from classhandicapper . . .
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01-28-2013, 01:26 AM
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Beyer was 104. Race looked legit and the speed figure seemed to bear that out. I know there are a lot of Pletcher naysayers out there and I'm usually very skeptical of his two year olds going into their three old year, but I still think Shanghai Bobby is a really special horse. He had a tough campaign last year - won the Breeders Cup juvenile and he came back and ran a pretty big race first time back. I have doubts the winner can replicate that form outside of Florida, but I'm pretty sure Shanghai Bobby will have a solid triple crown campaign if he remains healthy.
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01-28-2013, 02:10 AM
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Shanghai Bobby is bred for 7f-8f. Uncle Mo revisited.
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01-28-2013, 10:02 AM
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Kudos, Cincy et.al.
I would still say the winner was an underlay who got the perfect stalk sitting 3rd, but that was probably anticipated by his backers.
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I made a small profit on it.The exacta/tri bets cut it down.
After two big efforts from Lucky I fully expect him to go down in flames in the FOY.
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01-28-2013, 10:30 AM
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I made a small profit on it.The exacta/tri bets cut it down.
After two big efforts from Lucky I fully expect him to go down in flames in the FOY.
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Took a look at Itsmyluckyday last night and broke down the pedigree. What I am seeing is a a horse that is an outcross in the first 4 gens. As we move back farther we find he is from family 23 which is responsible for 4 KY Derby winners including I'LL Have Another last year. See post for tallies http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...0&postcount=50
What I see is a horse that has the Nasrullah\Princequillo crosses in the right places. Strong buildup of Tom Fool. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Fool
which is why I feel that IMLD is able to carry his speed long. Secretariat in his female tale also increases his chances for large heart score.
He seems to me a horse that if he stays sound should be able to carry his speed up to 1 1/8th maybe further if his training regimen stays on track.
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