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Old 10-31-2015, 07:25 PM   #16
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I have saw many good and wonderful horses run,From "Big Red' to American Pharaoh.Times have changed so much since Big Red ran,He done it against many great horses that went on to be wonderful stallions and their offspring becoming wonderful runners.I had a tear in my eye watching this race tonight,Not for the horse but for the people who came to see greatness as many never saw Secretariat run.You dont have to be a owner or trainer to feel emotion for a superstar as bright as this horse.Sad thing is,When will we see another!
A perfect ending for America's Horse!
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Old 10-31-2015, 07:52 PM   #17
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I have saw many good and wonderful horses run,From "Big Red' to American Pharaoh.Times have changed so much since Big Red ran,He done it against many great horses that went on to be wonderful stallions and their offspring becoming wonderful runners.I had a tear in my eye watching this race tonight,Not for the horse but for the people who came to see greatness as many never saw Secretariat run.You dont have to be a owner or trainer to feel emotion for a superstar as bright as this horse.Sad thing is,When will we see another!
A perfect ending for America's Horse!
So well written, Tom. You've captured the gift that is American Pharoah.
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Old 10-31-2015, 07:58 PM   #18
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American Pharoah is unquestionably the best horse to race in this country in the past 53 years. I would say even longer...but that's how long I've been alive...and I'd rather not speculate about a time that I never saw.
I think you are letting your emotions get the better of you. Spectacular Bid would have dusted AP if he was in this race. SB ran 145.4 and 157.4 as a four year old. SB ran that 157.4 on 14 days rest. I am so happy AP won in convincing fashion and he should go down as a great race horse. However, AP never ran a time that fast. He may have if allowed to run as a four year old, but that is pure speculation, unfortunately.
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Old 10-31-2015, 07:58 PM   #19
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In the top ten of the greatest horses to stand on this or any other planet.

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Old 10-31-2015, 08:00 PM   #20
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I am only 33, and have wished to see a triple crown winner, one deserving of it, all my years. AP brought me to tears this year, and today was the cherry on top.

There were alot of naysayers about his greatness. Much like comparing athletes from different eras, its just as hard to do it with horses from years past.

What we saw this year was special, and it was a privilege to see him in person this year.

People will always debate it, but he is the best ive ever seen. Scary to think how great he could be as an older horse. That being said, if i was the owner the money he could make as a stallion would make me do the same thing.

It was a great year, fo sho
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:00 PM   #21
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I think you are letting your emotions get the better of you. Spectacular Bid would have dusted AP if he was in this race. SB ran 145.4 and 157.4 as a four year old. SB ran that 157.4 on 14 days rest. I am so happy AP won in convincing fashion and he should go down as a great race horse. However, AP never ran a time that fast. He may have if allowed to run as a four year old, but that is pure speculation, unfortunately.
Pretty sure that was sarcasm from thask...he can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:08 PM   #22
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THOUGHTS ON AP

Wow, guess we are pretty much on the same page.

I neglected to add that I'm pretty much over the Bayern scenario,
so I have to note the incredible work ethic and genius of Bob Baffert
in the conditioning of AP.

Any thoughts how this effort will the Eclipse awards for Trainer
of the year?
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:11 PM   #23
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Baffert should get top trainer I would think, but there will be support for Chad Brown.
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:14 PM   #24
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I am only 33, and have wished to see a triple crown winner, one deserving of it, all my years. AP brought me to tears this year, and today was the cherry on top.

There were alot of naysayers about his greatness. Much like comparing athletes from different eras, its just as hard to do it with horses from years past.

What we saw this year was special, and it was a privilege to see him in person this year.

People will always debate it, but he is the best ive ever seen. Scary to think how great he could be as an older horse. That being said, if i was the owner the money he could make as a stallion would make me do the same thing.

It was a great year, fo sho
Joe...thanks for posting.

It will be because of YOU and the thousands of other racing fans that had a chance to see AP make history today that will help this sport survive.
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:20 PM   #25
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[QUOTE=McSchell_Racing]I have saw many good and wonderful horses run,From "Big Red' to American Pharaoh.Times have changed so much since Big Red ran,He done it against many great horses that went on to be wonderful stallions and their offspring becoming wonderful runners.I had a tear in my eye watching this race tonight,Not for the horse but for the people who came to see greatness as many never saw Secretariat run.You dont have to be a owner or trainer to feel emotion for a superstar as bright as this horse.Sad thing is,Wh
en will we see another!
A perfect ending for America's Horse![/QUOTE
Nice to hear from others in the business as you know what goes into the training and care of the horses day in and out .I have read some of the best compliments
People like yourself and it's also fantastic when I hear it from those from other continents too . Proud to be a Pharoah fan today , he does represent greatness !
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:23 PM   #26
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Wow, guess we are pretty much on the same page.

I neglected to add that I'm pretty much over the Bayern scenario,
so I have to note the incredible work ethic and genius of Bob Baffert
in the conditioning of AP.

Any thoughts how this effort will the Eclipse awards for Trainer
of the year?
What he accomplished this year should be rewarded with the Eclipse.
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:25 PM   #27
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Hard to say as greats like Slew,Bid,Affirmed returned as 4 year olds,,,heck the Bid was carrying 130pds in gr1 races as a 4 year old
That in and off itself is meaningless though. It's all about weight conceded, and even 2yos regularly carry 130lbs+ sometimes conceding 5-10lbs to other 2yos around the world.
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:29 PM   #28
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I don't see it. Where's this horse's against the grain race? Great horses can duel and hold off the likes of Keen Ice. Wiring the field, when you're lone, easy speed, and your chaser runs second, is not exactly something I'd get worked up about.
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:35 PM   #29
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That in and off itself is meaningless though. It's all about weight conceded, and even 2yos regularly carry 130lbs+ sometimes conceding 5-10lbs to other 2yos around the world.
That is the problem with AP. He never conceded weight throughout this entire year. The Bid conceded weight numerous times.
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Old 10-31-2015, 08:40 PM   #30
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best horse that has ever stepped foot on a race track
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