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03-11-2024, 04:31 PM
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Full 2023 Dataset available at no charge
Equibase announced today the availability of a complimentary dataset with a full year of past performance data and corresponding results charts for development, research, and evaluation purposes. The dataset will include all racing information for the 2023 calendar year with the appropriate supporting documentation
Here's the link to the announcement:
https://www.equibase.com/content/new...124release.cfm
Here's the link to the registration form:
https://www.equibase.com/handicappersdata.cfm
To the mods - if this is better suited to another section please let me know or feel free to move it.
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03-11-2024, 04:56 PM
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Thanks.
There should be some useful information in that data.
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03-12-2024, 01:21 PM
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Hard to say whether someone from a standing start would have a good chance to catch and beat the CAW teams. It would be a daunting task unlike 30 years ago when getting something out of the data was very doable.
It has come to whether it is really not worth the time to see if there are any plays. I skipped the weekend for about the first time in thirty years and haven't looked at it yesterday or today either. Maybe I am retired.
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03-12-2024, 02:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sjk
Hard to say whether someone from a standing start would have a good chance to catch and beat the CAW teams. It would be a daunting task unlike 30 years ago when getting something out of the data was very doable.
It has come to whether it is really not worth the time to see if there are any plays. I skipped the weekend for about the first time in thirty years and haven't looked at it yesterday or today either. Maybe I am retired.
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You mean nonsense like this 'How Do You Use Trainer and Jockey Win% & ITM% ?' won't work?
Just the way spatial (and visual) data revolutionized NBA data analytics, GPS data will revolutionize horse racing.
I doubt that GPS data is part of the free package, however.
I get a kick out of Equibase. For years, they're been guarding their data like it was the key to continued human existence. Now they offer 'free' data' but only if you give them your personal data.
And I particularly like how if you look at more 2 or 3 results charts in any given session, they start with the 'prove you're human' tests.
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03-12-2024, 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sjk
Hard to say whether someone from a standing start would have a good chance to catch and beat the CAW teams. It would be a daunting task unlike 30 years ago when getting something out of the data was very doable.
It has come to whether it is really not worth the time to see if there are any plays. I skipped the weekend for about the first time in thirty years and haven't looked at it yesterday or today either. Maybe I am retired.
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If there's any hope, it's going to be in identifying things that are difficult for computers to turn into objective numbers and then weigh better than we can intuitively. The other possibility is finding "exceptions" to generalities that are true in aggregate but not in all circumstances.
My own efforts with data and computers yielded useful answers to handicapping questions people have debated for decades, but it's super rare to find a single factor that's profitable (at least for long) and it's obviously extremely difficult to build a model that weighs all the info better than more advanced models built by math and computer experts supported by high level handicappers.
But if YOU are considering retiring, that says more about tough it is now than theoretical conversation.
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Last edited by classhandicapper; 03-12-2024 at 02:59 PM.
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03-12-2024, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denniswilliams
You mean nonsense like this 'How Do You Use Trainer and Jockey Win% & ITM% ?' won't work?
Just the way spatial (and visual) data revolutionized NBA data analytics, GPS data will revolutionize horse racing.
I doubt that GPS data is part of the free package, however.
I get a kick out of Equibase. For years, they're been guarding their data like it was the key to continued human existence. Now they offer 'free' data' but only if you give them your personal data.
And I particularly like how if you look at more 2 or 3 results charts in any given session, they start with the 'prove you're human' tests.
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This got me too....
They must have something up their sleeves...
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03-12-2024, 03:28 PM
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Thanks... I have put in for this, still have not received but put in as a software developer...a bad amateur to say the least.
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03-12-2024, 04:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denniswilliams
You mean nonsense like this 'How Do You Use Trainer and Jockey Win% & ITM% ?' won't work?
Just the way spatial (and visual) data revolutionized NBA data analytics, GPS data will revolutionize horse racing.
I doubt that GPS data is part of the free package, however.
I get a kick out of Equibase. For years, they're been guarding their data like it was the key to continued human existence. Now they offer 'free' data' but only if you give them your personal data.
And I particularly like how if you look at more 2 or 3 results charts in any given session, they start with the 'prove you're human' tests.
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In that thread it specifically stated, "If the win% or ITM% mean nothing to you, that's fine."
But yet you still felt the need to chime in with a trolltard reply and act like you're the expert.
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03-12-2024, 05:09 PM
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Were some folks not able to prove they are human?
Interesting.
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03-12-2024, 09:07 PM
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I have a computer question as I received the data today from Equibase. When I was downloading this today into the Dropbox and saving it to my documents folder. However, I have Windows 11 Home edition and it saved it or tried to save and it being save in Notepad. How do I change this in my system?
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03-13-2024, 10:27 AM
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What's up with this???
Got link for Jim V 15 mins ago....
When I click it , it says I needed to UPGRADE my Dropbox A/C
I have over a gig left in there....
Does this guy get a cut from all the upgrades people will need to get this..
PLEASE!!!
Anyone gets this can they share it....thxs
PS- and , of course, no-reply email
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03-13-2024, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saratoga
What's up with this???
Got link for Jim V 15 mins ago....
When I click it , it says I needed to UPGRADE my Dropbox A/C
I have over a gig left in there....
Does this guy get a cut from all the upgrades people will need to get this..
PLEASE!!!
Anyone gets this can they share it....thxs
PS- and , of course, no-reply email
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Ok.....somehow it showed up...probably took time to get in my box
all good...
will look at it later
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03-13-2024, 11:16 AM
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What format is the data in?
Attempts to see the "sample" only take me to the registration page.\.
Is there actually a "sample?"
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03-13-2024, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
What format is the data in?
Attempts to see the "sample" only take me to the registration page.\.
Is there actually a "sample?"
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Its a .xml file....
you click it then Microsoft Edge opens up...then it switches to code
I did open it with Excel by right clicking file and select Excel
There's is many repetitive lines of data....but I couldn't get anything out of it
Worse part......they send you a zipped file of 2023 and every track and
date is a zipped file....
If someone can figure this out please do...I'm lost !!
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03-13-2024, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saratoga
Its a .xml file....
you click it then Microsoft Edge opens up...then it switches to code
I did open it with Excel by right clicking file and select Excel
There's is many repetitive lines of data....but I couldn't get anything out of it
Worse part......they send you a zipped file of 2023 and every track and
date is a zipped file....
If someone can figure this out please do...I'm lost !!
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Haven't seen the file but what I get is that it's in .xml format and difficult to deal with in EXCEL. If you know PYTHON you can just read the file into a dataframe and do whatever you want with it.
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