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05-07-2024, 09:12 PM
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The real big lie...
...that "migrants" are needed for economic reasons here in the USA
Total lie. Absolute 100% total falsehood...propaganda...gaslighting at its finest.
Think about it. It's very easy to see this is absolutely and totally wrong.
They are being allowed to pour over the border for one reason only.
TO WIN ELECTIONS with votes from illegal immigrants
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05-07-2024, 09:23 PM
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I have dealt with thousands of Mexicans during my business life. None of them have ever voted in an election.
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05-07-2024, 10:11 PM
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Then what are all these millions of jobs that are begging for workers from across the border?
What industries will topple in the USA if all this illegal immigration were to end tomorrow?
And who said anything about Mexicans? Is that who comprises the majority of "migrants" since January 2021? People who started their trek to the USA as citizens of Mexico?
Last edited by PaceAdvantage; 05-07-2024 at 10:13 PM.
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05-08-2024, 12:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Then what are all these millions of jobs that are begging for workers from across the border?
What industries will topple in the USA if all this illegal immigration were to end tomorrow?
And who said anything about Mexicans? Is that who comprises the majority of "migrants" since January 2021? People who started their trek to the USA as citizens of Mexico?
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Put an end to illegal immigration...and the restaurant and grocery businesses will cease to exist as you now know them.
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05-08-2024, 12:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
And who said anything about Mexicans? Is that who comprises the majority of "migrants" since January 2021? People who started their trek to the USA as citizens of Mexico?
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Sorry...I dealt primarily with Mexicans. And I emphasized them only because they were the main preoccupation of the Orange One.
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05-08-2024, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Put an end to illegal immigration...and the restaurant and grocery businesses will cease to exist as you now know them.
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So there is the first places to watch for the roundup.
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05-08-2024, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
And I emphasized them only because they were the main preoccupation of the Orange One.
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I think you're incorrect.
Maybe you are confusing "crossing through Mexico" with Mexicans. Not necessarily the same thing.
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05-08-2024, 01:16 AM
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I think Orange Man is preoccupied with Venezuela...aren't they the ones he says are "emptying their prisons??"
They cross through Mexico...allegedly...to get to the USA...or not allegedly...
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05-08-2024, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Put an end to illegal immigration...and the restaurant and grocery businesses will cease to exist as you now know them.
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This is a BS way of saying we need cheap labor that everyone else's taxes will support. All that cheap labor somehow needs government support(that is your taxes) so they can have a way to survive. (living wage, tax subsidies, free housing, health care, etc.)
Legal immigration at least allows us to allocate our resources in a way that we can sort of control. Somehow we survived for a long time without an excess of people coming across those borders. Yes it was happening but not in so overwhelming numbers. What happens when all that so called cheap labor is replaced by new automation? Check out your local Mcdonalds lately? All those kiosks make for less so called low cost labor. All those truck stops that are pretty much forcing people to use the self serve terminals make for less workers there also.
In my opinion excess government spending and regulations and micro managing the economy makes it hard for legal workers to survive at the low end of the wage scale. All that inflation was caused by all that "free" money floating around and screwed the low end of the population and helped the more affluent people with assets, etc.
Bringing in more uneducated people doesn't help the low end spectrum of our population that need those jobs. If businesses can't get enough help, pay them more. A free economy (which we don't have) theoretically should even things out. People want services, they will pay more if they have to. Instead of asking for up to 22% in a tip for the workers, maybe just pay them more. The backlash against tips is already here.
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05-08-2024, 09:50 AM
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I have dealt with thousands of Mexicans during my business life. None of them have ever voted in an election.
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That's a bold statement. How do you know?
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05-08-2024, 10:14 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Put an end to illegal immigration...and the restaurant and grocery businesses will cease to exist as you now know them.
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You've got over 10 million illegals under Biden.
How the hell many more do you need?
Perhaps if we put those who hire illegals in jail, we get a better group of business owners in charge.
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05-08-2024, 10:19 AM
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Pelosi says we need these 'newcomers' to pick our crops. Not many farms in the cites these illegals flock to. Governor in Massachusetts has run up a tab of close to a billion dollars so far to support them. Taking over hotels, taking over rec centers in the inner cities and turning them into migrant shelters. Millions being spent to feed them, no bid contracts to provide services for them.
Politicians just refused a bill to house veterans first. voted it down. Illegals who have done nothing for the country getting first crack at available housing. Liberal, far left Massachusetts at its worst.
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05-08-2024, 10:21 AM
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Quote:
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I have dealt with thousands of Mexicans during my business life. None of them have ever voted in an election.
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RIGHT...Like they would tell you.
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05-08-2024, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
Put an end to illegal immigration...and the restaurant and grocery businesses will cease to exist as you now know them.
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Since Biden took office and allowed many millions of illegals in the country, food prices have skyrocketed. I think now we should try it the other way.
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05-08-2024, 10:44 AM
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The Voice of Reason!
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So if illegals are found working in a diner or grocery store, the owner should be arrested AND THE BUSINESS FORFIETED like assests in drug busts.
If you aren't willing to play by the rules, you shouldn't be allowed to play at all.
Some of these owners cry that Trump is not above the law, but ignore it themselves.
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