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Old 04-26-2019, 12:23 PM   #1
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Things are getting deep statey!

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/0...a-and-his-fbi/

what's next?
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Old 04-26-2019, 12:24 PM   #2
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Deep State=FICTION and more of it
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Old 04-26-2019, 12:32 PM   #3
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I have a feeling the Counter-Intelligence operation is equally, if not more, damaging to Trump.

Deep State Conspiracy folk keep saying, "just you wait until X comes out!"

Trump is President... he can tweet X whenever the hell he feels like it.
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Old 04-26-2019, 12:35 PM   #4
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I have a feeling the Counter-Intelligence operation is equally, if not more, damaging to Trump.

Deep State Conspiracy folk keep saying, "just you wait until X comes out!"

Trump is President... he can tweet X whenever the hell he feels like it.
2 years waiting for the Mueller report and Dems trying to pull shade.


Facts are all that matter, right ET?
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Old 04-26-2019, 12:42 PM   #5
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https://hotair.com/archives/2019/04/...y-trump-admin/

more.........
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Old 04-26-2019, 01:24 PM   #6
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2 years waiting for the Mueller report and Dems trying to pull shade.


Facts are all that matter, right ET?
I don't know why this was directed at me... literally an hour before Barr released his letter:

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I'm not personally clinging to anything...

I'm just saying it may be best to wait and see what's actually in it.

Could be like the Starr report calling for impeachment... could be nothing... could be something in between.
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Like I've said before the Starr Report's recommendation was impeachment. We don't know what this reports is but if they haven't released anything yet... I'd suspect theres a bit more "there" there than some of the Trumpists here are acting like.
Meanwhile onto the Counter-Intelligence Operation... Trump can release that to the public whenever/however he feels like... He just keeps talking about it and hasn't done so...

My guess is there's nothing there or it actually damages him more. That's Occam's Razor.

Sure keeps you folks carrying his water though...
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Look, all those invested in "NEVER-TRUMPISM" will never be convinced of anything until people are walking away in handcuffs.

They will cry and cry about how Trump supporters just parrot whatever Trump tweets out, but they themselves have been parroting the same BS day after day even though it's nothing but half-truths and wishful thinking.

It's the same on both sides of the "discussion."

Plus they have the added benefit of coming back with "well, it's Trump, so he deserved it"

It's pretty hilarious the lengths these supposed believers in the Constitution and freedom will go to justify what they did to Trump the candidate and Trump the President.

Any other President and these dudes would be running around screaming about police states and fascism and Watergate (NOT aimed at Trump) and all the rest.

Yeah Ely, I'm talking to you.
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Old 04-26-2019, 01:33 PM   #8
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Right. Everything is on the up and up. NOTHING is held back from the public.

There is NOTHING and NOBODY working behind the scenes.

You know EVERYTHING there is to know. The US Government holds back ZERO secrets...oh wait...
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A year late and they did it 'for the good of the country'.
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Old 04-26-2019, 01:43 PM   #10
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Right. Everything is on the up and up. NOTHING is held back from the public.

There is NOTHING and NOBODY working behind the scenes.

You know EVERYTHING there is to know. The US Government holds back ZERO secrets...oh wait...
Trump can just release all of that if he wants...

Why hasn't he? I sure as hell would if I was him... you would too...
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Trump can just release all of that if he wants...

Why hasn't he? I sure as hell would if I was him... you would too...
Trump is a better poker player than that. Maybe he's waiting to see how Nancy is going to play her hand.
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Old 04-26-2019, 02:08 PM   #12
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Look, all those invested in "NEVER-TRUMPISM" will never be convinced of anything until people are walking away in handcuffs.

They will cry and cry about how Trump supporters just parrot whatever Trump tweets out, but they themselves have been parroting the same BS day after day even though it's nothing but half-truths and wishful thinking.

It's the same on both sides of the "discussion."

Plus they have the added benefit of coming back with "well, it's Trump, so he deserved it"

It's pretty hilarious the lengths these supposed believers in the Constitution and freedom will go to justify what they did to Trump the candidate and Trump the President.

Any other President and these dudes would be running around screaming about police states and fascism and Watergate (NOT aimed at Trump) and all the rest.

Yeah Ely, I'm talking to you.
I just posted what I thought immediately before the Barr Letter... literally an hour before it was released...

Shall we post all the times you called something fake news that the Report proved was true?

How about the times you said Russia didn't help Trump?

Instead you have to make-up shit I didn't say... here is what I have said:

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This is certainly Mueller tightening the screws but beyond that all conjecture.

Like I've said before this is actually how justice is supposed to work... whatever ends up happening in the end whether it involves or completely exonerates Trump will be a good thing.

To be anti-investigation is basically to be anti-catching criminals.
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The Trump Tower meeting itself is an example of attempting cover-up.

Even people like Bannon said it was a stupid idea.

(BIG SNIP)

Point is... the Trump Administration had made this situation worse at every turn instead of just shutting up and cooperating.
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I think traitor is a strong word. I wouldn't use it. Agreed.

Apparently those [Putin's] eyes are mesmerizing. Like that snake in the Jungle Book.

Agreed. I don't think he's {Trump] a traitor. I think he's just a idiot.
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Probably the least odd thing about him.

There are some parallels though between Nixon and Trump in that the cover-up is quickly becoming worse than the crime...
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I'm not personally clinging to anything...

I'm just saying it may be best to wait and see what's actually in it.

Could be like the Starr report calling for impeachment... could be nothing... could be something in between.
So just stop... Go over to the Mueller thread and re-read my posts... you can do a or on my opinions on the subject...

Then go ahead and do yours...
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Trump is a better poker player than that. Maybe he's waiting to see how Nancy is going to play her hand.
That's right boxcar I bet people are begging him as if their life depends on it, and it does. He holds the Trump card and knows it.
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Trump is a better poker player than that. Maybe he's waiting to see how Nancy is going to play her hand.
Back on the 5D chess stuff huh?
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I just posted what I thought immediately before the Barr Letter... literally an hour before it was released...

Shall we post all the times you called something fake news that the Report proved was true?

How about the times you said Russia didn't help Trump?

Instead you have to make-up shit I didn't say... here is what I have said:











So just stop... Go over to the Mueller thread and re-read my posts... you can do a or on my opinions on the subject...

Then go ahead and do yours...
You can post whatever rehash of what you've already said a billion times. It will never change the bottom line.

What is the bottom line?

There was NEVER at ANY POINT enough EVIDENCE of ANYTHING to justify starting a FULL SCALE investigation (INCLUDING DOMESTIC SPYING) into then REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE/NOMINEE DONALD J. TRUMP and his campaign.

NOTHING. Except partisan politics, and that's no justification.
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