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Old 08-13-2019, 05:37 PM   #241
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Occam's Razor.

Epstein tried to commit suicide. He was then put on suicide watch. He was released from suicide watch and within essentially an hour committed suicide.

Did he have the means? Supposedly a bedsheet.

Take a step back. IF you were a billionaire with a hidden island in which you transported some elites to have sex with underage girls for years, would you want to sit in prison and eventually face your 'accusers' in court?

IF I was that dude, I'd off myself by any means possible before 1 of 2 things happen: 1) General prison population in which I'll need a new asshole or they'll kill me in the worst way imaginable, or 2) I have to sit in court in front of the entire world as the most shameful man on the planet and look at mother's faces of the children I raped

I'd off myself by any means possible.
He supposedly committed suicide by hanging himself while on his knees with bed sheets knotted to top rung of bunk bed and with sheets that are reported to be paper thin for obvious safety reasons. . . so you're buying that he either had the will to jolt himself forward on his knees with such force to snap his neck (again, with paper thin sheets) or the will to essentially choke himself out . . . sorry, not buying either scenario
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:42 PM   #242
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He supposedly committed suicide by hanging himself while on his knees with bed sheets knotted to top rung of bunk bed and with sheets that are reported to be paper thin for obvious safety reasons. . . so you're buying that he either had the will to jolt himself forward on his knees with such force to snap his neck (again, with paper thin sheets) or the will to essentially choke himself out . . . sorry, not buying either scenario
He was off suicide watch. Therefore, the sheets were no longer as you described. But the other details are hard to believe.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:01 PM   #243
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Occam's Razor.

Epstein tried to commit suicide. He was then put on suicide watch. He was released from suicide watch and within essentially an hour committed suicide.

Did he have the means? Supposedly a bedsheet.

Take a step back. IF you were a billionaire with a hidden island in which you transported some elites to have sex with underage girls for years, would you want to sit in prison and eventually face your 'accusers' in court?

IF I was that dude, I'd off myself by any means possible before 1 of 2 things happen: 1) General prison population in which I'll need a new asshole or they'll kill me in the worst way imaginable, or 2) I have to sit in court in front of the entire world as the most shameful man on the planet and look at mother's faces of the children I raped

I'd off myself by any means possible.
That's fine. All of the above could be perfectly true.

Any MORON with HALF A BRAIN knows to put that kind of person in an environment where the ONLY way to kill himself would be to POUND HIS HEAD into a BRICK WALL...or hey, how about a padded room?

They didn't? Why?

Cause they didn't WANT HIM GOING TO TRIAL, so they ALLOWED HIM TO KILL HIMSELF.

Hell, there was a report a few weeks before he was successful, that he ATTEMPTED SUICIDE because of marks seen on his NECK?

What did they do? They CONVENIENTLY allowed him back into an environment where he could FINISH THE JOB.

WHO greased the palms to ALLOW that to happen? Who knows...someone did. SOMEONE ALLOWED it to happen.

OCCAM's RAZOR indeed sir.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:03 PM   #244
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The only thing he didn't have in his cell that was lethal was OCCAM'S RAZOR!
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:13 PM   #245
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The only thing he didn't have in his cell that was lethal was OCCAM'S RAZOR!

Tom, a razor hasn't hit your face since Nixon left office.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:21 PM   #246
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You have the wrong person. The Todd Madison who passed away in Wisconsin was white.* Here's the Todd you're looking for (quoted in a 2019 article):

https://time.com/5535269/stay-safe-political-rallies/

In addition, I also think you'll find Secret Service Agent Madison was from the PA area, not WI (obit above says Madison was from WI).

*someone incorrectly linked the Secret Service Agent's picture to the legacy.com obit.
You mean I've been duped by the internet?

PS. how do you know he's white?

Luckily, nobody reads this website...now where's that edit/delete button?
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:29 PM   #247
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You have the wrong person. The Todd Madison who passed away in Wisconsin was white.* Here's the Todd you're looking for (quoted in a 2019 article):

https://time.com/5535269/stay-safe-political-rallies/

In addition, I also think you'll find Secret Service Agent Madison was from the PA area, not WI (obit above says Madison was from WI).

*someone incorrectly linked the Secret Service Agent's picture to the legacy.com obit.
PS, I found Todd's linkedin page while searching for how it was I could be so stupidly duped...hardly ever happens.

Anyhoo, found him...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-madison-a43427129/

Weird part is, although his linkedin profile says he's been an Associate Managing Director there since 2017, when you go to the K2 site, he's nowhere to be found...and they seem to list every single Associate Managing Director.

Maybe it's a cushy no-show job that Hillary set up for him...lulz
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:37 PM   #248
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There is a dimwit here all right and it is you. Let me explain it again with no hope that you will understand. First of all, there were six trips not four. But those six Tripp’s consisted of a total of 27 different flights. For example, the Africa trip included stops in Ghana, Rwanda, Mozambique and SOuth Africa along with several others.

When team Clinton says one of the trips was to Africa to deal with the AIDS crisis, who cares if they don’t list every stinking stop they make. I mean besides idiots like you.

"Tripp's"?? I see what you did there!! In a Bill Clinton post! Just found it funny..
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:55 PM   #249
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PS, I found Todd's linkedin page while searching for how it was I could be so stupidly duped...hardly ever happens.

Anyhoo, found him...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-madison-a43427129/

Weird part is, although his linkedin profile says he's been an Associate Managing Director there since 2017, when you go to the K2 site, he's nowhere to be found...and they seem to list every single Associate Managing Director.

Maybe it's a cushy no-show job that Hillary set up for him...lulz
I looked up his son from the legacy.com obit. He's white. At that point, I looked up Mr. Madison and found a pic (he and his son look very similar--and both are white).

I assume Agent Madison left k2, not sure. Maybe he's working on a private security detail. Anyway, the bad info is all over the Internet.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:52 PM   #250
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The two guards are now on leave.
Per request of Hillary?

They will never be seen again.
Probably suicides. Both notes will be same handwriting.
One was not a 'corrections officer', could have been just mopping the floor.
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Old 08-13-2019, 08:37 PM   #251
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He supposedly committed suicide by hanging himself while on his knees with bed sheets knotted to top rung of bunk bed and with sheets that are reported to be paper thin for obvious safety reasons. . . so you're buying that he either had the will to jolt himself forward on his knees with such force to snap his neck (again, with paper thin sheets) or the will to essentially choke himself out . . . sorry, not buying either scenario
Yeah, sounds like BS. Plus, not saying prison would be fun but he would be segregated from the general population. He still had money and could hire top notch lawyers, heck, Dershewitz would likely rep again for free, could have possibly served time in a country club prison.
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:27 PM   #252
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That's fine. All of the above could be perfectly true.

Any MORON with HALF A BRAIN knows to put that kind of person in an environment where the ONLY way to kill himself would be to POUND HIS HEAD into a BRICK WALL...or hey, how about a padded room?

They didn't? Why?

Cause they didn't WANT HIM GOING TO TRIAL, so they ALLOWED HIM TO KILL HIMSELF.

Hell, there was a report a few weeks before he was successful, that he ATTEMPTED SUICIDE because of marks seen on his NECK?

What did they do? They CONVENIENTLY allowed him back into an environment where he could FINISH THE JOB.

WHO greased the palms to ALLOW that to happen? Who knows...someone did. SOMEONE ALLOWED it to happen.

OCCAM's RAZOR indeed sir.
Or...it could simply be a case of INCOMPETENCE.
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Old 08-13-2019, 10:09 PM   #253
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Man this board is nutty sometimes...cue FanDan with some cute little meme in reaction to my choice of "sometimes"
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Or...it could simply be a case of INCOMPETENCE.
What impeccable timing for such a thing, don't you think?

I wonder how many other "incompetence" incidents they have at this particular holding facility? One would think if such a high profile inmate as Epstein were allowed to be so freewheeling, the suicide rate must be off the charts there?

In fact, they might want to think about changing the name of the place from Metropolitan Correctional Center to Kevorkian Correctional Center.
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What impeccable timing for such a thing, don't you think?
It would be helpful but incompetence doesn’t follow a schedule.

You seem to be a fan of conspiracy theories. In your experience has one EVER PROVEN true?
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