Biden, 3 weeks tops........

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker

Pretty naive brother.

The Dem Obamacare plan has been in circulation and attempted dating back to Jimmy Carter. Mass healthcare has been a pure mission for the Clintons, that they never solved, and yet Obama put forth a 40 year search for who knows what.

Trump gets 100 days or less and the Dems are chuckling. Fitting.

Reality is, it has to come from Congress. The clowns we elect across the country are the ones with the supposed intellect and want to in order to make our lives better.

Not a one of them is worthy of our respect. And not a one of them will have the answer. M4A isn't the answer.

I don't think Healthcare is solved by pandering to the demand side but the supply side.

That's why I don't support M4A. I'd much rather see my tax dollars going into block grants for medicaid, infrastructure, education, and facilities. Issues with shortages, access, and quality exist in both rural and urban areas. After that you can begin the process of national price fixing via government programs and private insurers. It would require a long term commitment though.

There is pain no matter what you end up doing... it's also part of the reason I'm against breaking a broken system worse without any path forward like the current administration intends to do.

Hate the lefts plan(s) all you want... it's at least a plan.

[JustRalph]

Originally Posted by baconswitchfarm

I wish the guys who work for me would work as hard as he does here.

Amen! Me too!

[elysiantraveller]

You guys need better people.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

You guys need better people.

There is no better people than me.



If you think you have found one; you are lying.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by baconswitchfarm

I wish the guys who work for me would work as hard as he does here.

He tends off topic closer than a spider tends her web!

[elysiantraveller]

Joe seems to have trolled the President pretty well though...

[davew]

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller

I don't think Healthcare is solved by pandering to the demand side but the supply side.

That's why I don't support M4A. I'd much rather see my tax dollars going into block grants for medicaid, infrastructure, education, and facilities. Issues with shortages, access, and quality exist in both rural and urban areas. After that you can begin the process of national price fixing via government programs and private insurers. It would require a long term commitment though.

There is pain no matter what you end up doing... it's also part of the reason I'm against breaking a broken system worse without any path forward like the current administration intends to do.

Hate the lefts plan(s) all you want... it's at least a plan.

I wouldn't either if I sold insurance. Number of policies and dollar volume will surely go down if the government supplies health care for everyone.

[elysiantraveller]

Originally Posted by davew

I wouldn't either if I sold insurance. Number of policies and dollar volume will surely go down if the government supplies health care for everyone.

I haven't sold a insurance policy for years... my license is just in escrow and I keep up my C/E's.

Its a potential conflict of interest in mortgage world.

[JustRalph]

Does slurring count?

https://news.grabien.com/story-old-m...speech-preside

[jocko699]

Originally Posted by JustRalph

Does slurring count?

https://news.grabien.com/story-old-m...speech-preside

Jes occifer it does!

[reckless]

A few need-to-know things about Joe Biden, that his friends in the media won't tell you.

They will make a big deal that he is from Pennsylvania and that he could win that very important state and return it to the Democrat Party. It's a swerve.

For one, Biden was 10-11 years old when the family moved to Delaware. He is as much a Pennsylvanian as Bryce Harper.

If his Pennsylvania 'roots' meant anything, how come he couldn't win the state for Hillary Clinton? Biden campaigned for her throughout the state and she lost! He didn't help her one bit.

Biden likes to fancies himself a friend of the workingman; 'Lunch pail' Joe. Another joke. He never worked outside the government in his entire life. He supported all those types of legislation that killed the coal and manufacturing industries in this state. Some friend of the blue collar worker.

And of course, we're told he is the only one that could defeat Trump in 2020. They say he is a 'moderate' which will appeal to those afraid of the radicals that are getting all the headlines.

So, how could he beat Trump when he has run for President two times and has never won a single delegate outside of Delaware? Just won't happen; he'll get demolished by Trump.

Last but not least. He's a real liar and plagiarist. His most egregious offense, The Neil Kinnock lie:

Joe Biden plagiarised Neil Kinnock speech.

What's in a quote? For Joe Biden, his plagiarisation of a speech delivered by Neil Kinnock, then UK Labour leader, helped put pay to his own campaign to win the Democrats' presidential nomination more than 20 years ago.

The speech by Mr Kinnock, as he desperately tried to remodel and rebuild the Labour Party, was widely judged to be a dramatic and powerful piece of political rhetoric - making it particularly tempting, but also unusually unwise, for Mr Biden to borrow its most significant passage without attribution to the British politician.

NEIL KINNOCK at Welsh Labour Party conference May 1987:

"Why am I the first Kinnock in a thousand generations to be able to get to university? Was it because our predecessors were thick? Does anybody really think that they didn't get what we had because they didn't have the talent or the strength or the endurance or the commitment? Of course not. It was because there was no platform upon which they could stand"

JOE BIDEN IN Sept 1987 during his first presidential campaign:

"Why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go a university? Why is it that my wife... is the first in her family to ever go to college? Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? ...Is it because they didn't work hard? My ancestors who worked in the coal mines of northeast Pennsylvania and would come after 12 hours and play football for four hours? It's because they didn't have a platform on which to stand."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ck-speech.html

[highnote]

Biden and Bernie are late 70s, but Trump is no spring chicken, either.

Still, Trump is the most likely winner of the next prez election.

Remember, it's a popularity contest.

I haven't seen a dem candidate yet that is resonating with the diverse dem base. There is no unifying candidate.

Bernie's challenge is that he was never a democrat so he wasn't embraced by dem leadership. Hillary was. She lost for reasons we don't need to re-hash.

If I was a betting man my money would be on Trump in 2020.

Of course, a lot can happen between now and then. If the economy tanks that could be a major factor.

The policy makers in DC set up the last election for Hillary. They did quantitative easing to make sure the market and economy were healthy and recovering when the 2016 election came around. They knew it would keep getting stronger through 2020 which would set her up for a 2020 re-election. Problem was, they didn't see Trump coming. Now he is benefitting from the booming market and economic recovery. All Trump has to do is keep the economic ship steady and on course and he can win in a landslide in 2020.

[Tom]

Gropin' Joe Biden is a very very bad man.
But still, better than the other 19 morons!

When you want to look smart, hang out with idiots.

[Stevecsd2]

Joe Biden also helped his son ink a billion dollar deal with the Chinese government WHILE he was vice president.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...l-with-chinese


So how tough do you think he would be on China?

I think I recall reading he has also had some shady deals in the Ukraine.

[woodtoo]

Originally Posted by Stevecsd2

Joe Biden also helped his son ink a billion dollar deal with the Chinese government WHILE he was vice president.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...l-with-chinese


So how tough do you think he would be on China?

I think I recall reading he has also had some shady deals in the Ukraine.

Joe admitted he colluded with other World leaders to get elected and save America. True.