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03-26-2014, 11:22 AM
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Journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Originally Posted by goatchaser
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Wow.I thought I answered this a few minutes back, but maybe not.
Anyway, thanks but that is not the intended meaning of the board name.Nor am I a town in Oklahoma. The meaning behind the name is not real apparent.....apparently.
Thanks again and also thanks to Hominy.
Last edited by cj; 03-26-2014 at 11:29 AM.
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03-26-2014, 11:29 AM
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#542
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@TimeformUSfigs
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 46,844
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Originally Posted by stillwater
Wow.I thought I answered this a few minutes back, but maybe not.
Anyway, thanks but that is not the intended meaning of the board name.Nor am I a town in Oklahoma. The meaning behind the name is not real apparent.....apparently.
Thanks again and also thanks to Hominy.
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When I moderator lives in Oklahoma, you don't get free reign to bash the state without cause.
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03-26-2014, 11:41 AM
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#543
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Racing Form Detective
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lincoln, Ne but my heart is at Santa Anita
Posts: 16,316
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Originally Posted by cj
When I moderator lives in Oklahoma, you don't get free reign to bash the state without cause.
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They use to believe the world was flat and if you went far enough you would fall off the edge. Oklahoma is located a mile beyond that edge and Nebraska is two miles beyond Oklahoma.
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Some day in the not too distant future, horse players will betting on computer generated races over the net. Race tracks will become casinos and shopping centers. And some crooner will be belting out "there used to be a race track here".
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03-26-2014, 01:11 PM
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#544
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 4,669
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Boy, the whole "If you aren't here to condemn Asmussen, then I command you to get the hell out of this thread" attitude sure went south.
I hope the next time some inflammatory topic comes up there will be no bullying attempts to dictate opinion, set narrow parameters of discussion, or censor any fellow poster.
I've got a news flash for you people..there ARE no horse haters on this forum, and few who are callous to the noble steeds. Just separate perspectives from a strong, diverse pool of posters.
Last edited by mountainman; 03-26-2014 at 01:23 PM.
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03-26-2014, 02:16 PM
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#545
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 10,861
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Originally Posted by andtheyreoff
The beginning of the end of thoroughbred racing, IMO. Not being sarcastic.
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More like the end of the end. Racing has been in decline for over a decade.
On the other hand it could be the start of a new beginning. Hope springs eternal.
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03-26-2014, 02:27 PM
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#546
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,878
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http://jessicachapel.com/2014/03/25/coming-clean/
Jessica comes clean? I get the feeling she wants to say more
I have no idea who she is
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03-26-2014, 03:01 PM
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#547
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Covington, Wa
Posts: 2,198
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03-26-2014, 03:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 10,861
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Originally Posted by mountainman
I've been exposed to some peta philosophy and tactics, and they have no credibility with me. Zero. As in none whatsoever.
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The irony is that PETA is willing to hurt humans to help other animals, but humans are animals, too.
It is the nature of lions to kill antelope. PETA does not try to stop lions from killing.
Humans eat horses and they train horses. PETA tries to stop humans from eating and training horses.
PETA's actions seem ironic and incongruent to me.
I think someone else mentioned here that PETA is just a bunch of unhappy people who like to make others as miserable as they are. Given their behavior there might be some truth to that.
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03-26-2014, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Covington, Wa
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I agree with that sentiment. The mission statement is praise worthy but the implementation might be called questionable.
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03-26-2014, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 10,861
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Originally Posted by Tom
Two HOF'ers joking about cheating......it doesn't get any more damning than that.
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Baffert said similar things about when he was a QH trainer. They would bang on the walls of a horse they were racing against the next day in order to keep him from falling sleeping so that he wouldn't want to run.
Sleep deprivation -- interesting tactic.
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03-26-2014, 03:42 PM
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Just another Facist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Now in Houston
Posts: 52,878
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Originally Posted by rubicon55
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Thanks! I took the original link from twitter. Didn't realize it was an entire website. 
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03-26-2014, 03:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Covington, Wa
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No problem, I have benefited from many posters links so it was about time I contributed albeit a minor one. Enjoyed your past links as well.
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03-26-2014, 03:59 PM
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#553
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 10,861
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Originally Posted by cj
Nothing wrong with giving thryroid meds for no reason other than to increase metabolism? Really?
The lasix comment was from a vet, not the assistant trainer. Personally, I'm 100% certain that horses that race without Lasix are at a competitive disadvantage. By allowing it for horses that need it, we are forcing those that don't to use it as well.
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NY racing was better when they did NOT allow Lasix.
If a horse needs Lasix to prevent bleeding then it is a performance enhancing drug. For that reason alone it should be banned.
It is absurd that some first time starters get Lasix.
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03-26-2014, 04:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 10,861
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Originally Posted by Rex Phinney
If you don't agree, I'd suggest looking around the grandstands on your next trip to the track, try counting all the empty seats, or better yet count the full ones, it won't take nearly as long.
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Racing is a betting game. The stands are empty because people are betting from home.
I would have to be paid to step foot on a racetrack -- and that includes Millionaire's Row at Churchill Downs on KY Derby day.
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03-26-2014, 05:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 10,861
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Originally Posted by BlinkersOn
I can honestly say, I'm more disappointed in Gary Stevens then anyone. I think the incident he used the shock buzzer in was the 95 derby in which Thunder Gulch won. He exchanged something with Pat Day after that race. I've watched the VHS tape many times since then, and every time, it becomes more convincing...and yes it was VHS tapes back in 95.
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I just watched the video. Stevens didn't say which race he used the buzzer in. I got the feeling he was talking about his early days.
I read 380 posts before I watched the video. Frankly, I thought the video was going to be much worse. Anyone who knows anything about racing would know that there was not much new in that video.
It was an "agenda" piece. A real documentary would have shown all sides of racing.
It is hard for me to be persuaded by PETA's position. While watching it, I would recommend that you consider the source.
Race horses are generally very well taken care of. Would it be better for these horses to run wild and be in constant fear of being attacked by some carnivorous stalker and then be torn to bits piece by piece while be devoured alive?
The world is a tough place. That's the reality.
That said, when it comes to the training of racehorses, there is always room for improvement. If the PETA piece raises awareness and horses are treated better then that would be a good thing.
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