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03-16-2016, 03:30 PM
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I wouldn't trust anyone Obama nominates.
I'm sure that Obama would not nominate anyone that is pro gun rights.
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03-16-2016, 03:35 PM
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You almost have to wonder if Judge Garland is offering himself up as a sacrificial lamb.As Game Theory noted, he would certainly not be nominated again if rejected, unless the Dems gain control of the Senate next year.I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't want to be on SCOUTS so his best bet would be to have the Republicans stick to their word and not hold hearings on his nomination and hope for Clinton to prevail in November-assuming she's on board with this selection.
Garland was the coordinating prosecutor (not the trial itself but the nuts and bolts stuff before trial) for both the Oklahoma City and Atlanta Olympic bombings.His appeals history shows a willingness to side withe police and prosecution more often than not.
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03-16-2016, 03:54 PM
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McConnell is already re-affirming they won't confirm him or anybody. We'll see if they are put under any real pressure to do so...
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03-16-2016, 04:01 PM
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The republicans are in a tough spot. The conservatives are so pissed off at them for caving to Obama on all sort of things, if they cave on this they will all lose their jobs in the Senate and the next guy that rises through the party will make Trump and Cruz look like Richard Simmons. I know nothing about this guy, but if he's really a moderate and was replacing a moderate, it would be a lot easier for conservatives to swallow than replacing Scalia (who they love) with a moderate they will hate.
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03-16-2016, 04:28 PM
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Last edited by dartman51; 03-16-2016 at 04:29 PM.
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03-16-2016, 04:31 PM
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Someone should tell Judge Garland that the Senate will be accepting applications in 2017. It's good to be prompt for a job interview, but that usually means showing up a few minutes early not several months.
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03-16-2016, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dartman51
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That was then, this is now....
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03-16-2016, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by barahona44
You almost have to wonder if Judge Garland is offering himself up as a sacrificial lamb.As Game Theory noted, he would certainly not be nominated again if rejected, unless the Dems gain control of the Senate next year.I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't want to be on SCOUTS so his best bet would be to have the Republicans stick to their word and not hold hearings on his nomination and hope for Clinton to prevail in November-assuming she's on board with this selection.
Garland was the coordinating prosecutor (not the trial itself but the nuts and bolts stuff before trial) for both the Oklahoma City and Atlanta Olympic bombings.His appeals history shows a willingness to side withe police and prosecution more often than not.
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He has no chance ever to be nominated except this time. The way the picks are being made is liberal, conservative. A moderate will likely never get a chance at the Supreme Court. He was wise to accept it and hope for the best. Does anyone think a Democrat would ever pick him in a normal circumstance? Not a chance.
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03-16-2016, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
The republicans are in a tough spot. The conservatives are so pissed off at them for caving to Obama on all sort of things, if they cave on this they will all lose their jobs in the Senate and the next guy that rises through the party will make Trump and Cruz look like Richard Simmons. I know nothing about this guy, but if he's really a moderate and was replacing a moderate, it would be a lot easier for conservatives to swallow than replacing Scalia (who they love) with a moderate they will hate.
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It is certain proof of the insanity of conservatives that they think republicans have been caving in to Obama. If there is one thing we can be sure of it is the unrelenting opposition of Republicans to anything Obama .
And here is another proof. That they will accept nothing but the most rabid of conservatives.
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03-16-2016, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
If they lose, put him in. If the win, go for someone better.
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Someone better?
Like Sheriff Joe???
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03-16-2016, 09:36 PM
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03-16-2016, 09:48 PM
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03-16-2016, 10:00 PM
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Hilarious!
Not the memes.....but how far off topic you can stray to be a clever dick.
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03-16-2016, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by davew
I guess stupid posters is what is needed
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Never get down in the mud and wrestle with a pig. You get filthy and the pig likes it.
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03-16-2016, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpost
It is certain proof of the insanity of conservatives that they think republicans have been caving in to Obama. If there is one thing we can be sure of it is the unrelenting opposition of Republicans to anything Obama .
And here is another proof. That they will accept nothing but the most rabid of conservatives.
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One of the major issues of the Tea Party conservatives is government spending and deficits. They are fiscal conservatives. When the republicans finally got control of congress, it was with the expectation that they would do everything in their power to defund Obamacare and slow the growth of spending because deficits were huge, debt was piling up at an all time rate, and spending was growing faster than GDP
A little progress was made via the sequester, but nothing was ever even sent to Obama's desk for him to veto to make the political point about who actually wanted to spend what. That riled up the conservatives because the guys they had just elected didn't do what they campaigned and were elected to do.
Then you had guys like Boehner making backdoor deals with the president that would increase spending faster and give Obama a bunch of things he wanted for almost no return. So they went ballistic. That's why he was forced out.
Finally, Ryan basically picked up where Boehner left off until they started going ballistic on him.
The basic math driving that movement is that federal spending cannot grow faster than GDP long term. We are already heavily in debt at the exact time spending is going to ACCELERATE for SS, medicare, medicaid, pensions etc... because of the demographics. Something has to give. Everyone knows that the only way to get out from under this mess is to make some drastic moves on spending now so they don't have to be super extreme later and taxes don't have to go through the roof also. That's where the passion is coming from. Every time the republicans fail to deliver now, that wing of the party is going to get even more pissed.
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